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The main page for Juliet balcony prices offers convenient design options and prices. Here is an aid to help you create your own unique Juliet balcony design, as who wants to have the same as everyone else? You can make your Juliet balcony stand out by coming up with your own design. Although it may seem lengthy, I aim to share years of balcony design experience in just a simple web page. However, designing your own balcony is not a difficult task.
Its all based on the idea, that you remove a plain bar and replace it with a decorative one. How many plain bars you leave in the Juliet balcony is up to you. Working out a price is easy. As each Juliet balcony size will be priced in its plain form. Each decorative bar unit will have a price. so putting in 3 decorative bar units at £4 each. its going to be £12 more than the basic model.
Bar gapping for Juliet balconies.
This part is simply some non essential information.
This redesign of Juliet balcony construction focusses on adhering to building regulations that mandate a maximum gap of 100mm between bars, ensuring a 100mm sphere cannot pass through. Previously, the process involved taking the customer’s specified size, adding 300mm. then calculating bar gaps to keep them under 100mm, resulting in inconsistent spacing across different Juliet balcony sizes. However, since a Juliet balcony isn’t a fixed size like a wall railing, setting all bars at 99mm apart (with 111mm centres using 12mm uprights) simplifies the design and maintains uniformity regardless of the balcony width.
A fixed gap now makes it easier and cheaper to produce component parts. You can make tools to do it faster. Speeding up the process..All have sizes have been designs to have a centre bar, this makes it easy to just put a single centre piece in a balcony. A centre is a good place to start from, many designs are based on reflecting the design from the centre. But its your choice how you do it.
Juliet Balcony frame designs.
If you have searched the internet, you might have noticed the majority of Juliet balcony railings come in two major frame designs.
The perhaps classic type Juliet balcony, with a top and bottom bar with upright spindles. All details for the design difference go on the spindles. Every third bar a twisted bar as an example. But there is much more that can be done to give the balcony an individual design.
The double top bar, creates a gap with which you can now add a design into. Whilst it might be nice to perhaps leave it completely empty. This is not practical as the top bar will require some support to stop it sagging. But this type does open up a whole can of designs.
Regardless of what Juliet balcony frame style is your preference, The details for the upright bar design is the same. The only difference is the uprights for the classic style are 1100mm tall, and those of the double top bar are 1000mm tall. From a production point of view these parts are obviously different because of the height. As an example scrolls for the classic need to be 275mm tall (1/4 height of railing), scrolls for the double top need to be 250mm long ( 1/4 of bar height). As well as the position of other parts due to the different heights.
Double top bar design
At this point it makes sense to look at the gap between the double top bar and possible designs in the top space. Followed by the upright bar designs. So if you dislike the double top bar design scroll down.
To provide support for the top bar ideally you should be looking at a contact point every 500mm (5 bars) maximum. All drawings base on a 900mm wide door opening (1270mm wide)
Now these are not set designs, these are possible ideas. Purely for the purpose of showing how it could be done and let your imagination take over. Now bear in mind longer Juliet balconies have more uprights in. So what looks good here might look ugly in a larger Juliet balcony. Ugly perhaps being the wrong word, as beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We most certainly don’t all have the same tastes in design. Hence why this page is here.
Extending a couple of upright bars to pass through mid bar, and make contact with the top bar. Very simple leaves as large a gap possible in the top creating a bit of an airy feel to it.
Simply swapping out the extended uprights for circles as a method of support. A simple change using 100mm diameter circles from 12mm, the same size as the uprights.
Just a pair of full size S scroll, here provide a bridge between the two top bars. More than enough to give full support to the top bar.
Exactly the same as the first idea, but with the addition of a pair of C scrolls set either side of the extended upright. A subtle difference but more than enough to change the look of the Juliet balcony.
Looks suspiciously the same as the second one. It is but just 3 circle and different placement of them. Placement is everything
Same as the one to the left except the centre bar is an extended one. It could have easily been a circle in centre and extended bars on the outside.
Circle above the centre with full S scrolls either side.
As previous design but with the circle.
A circle above every other bar, plenty of support here for top bar.
By now you are hopefully getting a feel for this. What you place in the gap and where you place it has, quite a dramatic effect on the look of the balcony. There are plenty of other possibilities. Some ideas you will no doubt absolutely hate and others you might like. The difference in price between any of these top designs is about £15 from the base price. Which really isn’t that much of a difference for something that gives you as the customer personal choice.
Admittedly on Juliet larger balconies where there is more space in the top its going to be different. Simply because you can place more items in the top to fill them. I will get down to a specific price for each item at the end of this.
Juliet balcony Bar designs.
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There are 46 possible replacement bar ideas here. All are listed individually further down the page. You remove a plain bar from the balcony and replace it with one of these. Take for example the bar with a centre circle in, place one in the centre of the Juliet balcony. Then replace the bar say 3rd to the left of the centre and 3rd from the right. You have a design. You could just place one of these bar in the centre of the Juliet balcony and be done with it.
How many plain bars and where you replace then its up to you. But this does give you plenty of scope to design something individual. Please keep reading on and i will put up some possible ideas to get you started. We still have a fair way to go.
Internal design ideas
These are examples of what can be done. How you do it yourself is up to you. Click to enlarge any of the designs below for a more detailed view
A single circle centred in the balcony. Plain simple and for a few pounds adds some interest.
A lone twist a minor detail, which sometime can be enough.
3 circle bar, not over powering. but starting to get interesting.
More circles but outer 2 are double circles.
Every 3rd bar twisted, a plain favourite of mine.
Throw circles and twists in the same pot.
Full size S scroll pattern in centre only.
Fully twisted bar as a side order?
Perhaps that more filled out look is what you want.
More twists any one. Alternate twisted bars
C scrolls in an alternate pattern
Twist and C scroll mix
Back to that centre circle with side help of S scrolls
untouched centre with S scrolls on the out side
Going in all the way with S scrolls
Centre S scroll with Circles on the side.
S scroll pattern top and bottom
Circles and S scrolls
Same as before just a twist instead for centre
Flipping it around and circle centre twisted out bars.
Again this is just a taster of what is possible. The idea being to give you a few examples so you can see where just changing one bar makes a difference. The last 4 being essential the same but just a change or a re arrangement of the bars creates a new design. Show minor changes can have an impact on the design.
Juliet Balcony size and bar count.
The above designs were all drawn for a 900mm door with wall fixing. This is what the internet does, show you an example of a given size. This is where that lovely picture of a design you are looking at on a website, then actually fails to look like the one for your size. Of course you don’t know this until it turns up. This is because as i have likely previously mentioned larger Juliet balconies have a higher bar count. So before you can let your imagination run away. You need to know, what that bar count is for each given size of Juliet balcony. This will have a major effect on what you decide to put into the Juliet balcony design and where you put it.
for a 900mm wide door opening.
11 upright bars
1000mm wide door opening.
11 upright bars
1100mm door opening
Bar count of 13
1200mm door opening
Bar count 13
1500mm door opening
Bar count of 15
1800mm door opening
Bar count 19
2000mm door opening
Bar count 21
2100mm door opening
bar count 21
2400mm door opening
Bar count 25
2700mm door opening
bar count 27
These are just drawn as classic frame, the double top frame will have the same bar count. It should cover the most popular sizes. What you might notice from the drawings is that the fixing bar on some is a full width away from the last upright bar. On some it is only a half distance this is just the trade off for having fixed spaced bars. The 900mm and 1000mm being the best examples. if you hate the look of the half gap, just say and we can increase the width of the balcony until it is a full gaps width.
A point to note.
I want to go back to this photo from the main Juliet balcony page. If you look at the last bar at each end its outside of the door frame, inline with the brick work. In other words from inside the door you won’t see it. The same applies to the middle on these double doors. So you kind of have to decide what’s most important to you.
The view from the outside which is what the majority of people are interested in or the view from the inside. Obviously when the doors are open you get to see the centre bars. So don’t feel you have to push any design right up to the outside. A point worth noting but is entirely a personal choice.
Keep the first and the last bar plain, a twist or circle or basket is ok. But something like a scroll is going to over hang and get in the way of drilling the fixings holes.
Balcony prices.
This is for a built and painted balcony with 12mm square solid plain bars. 40mm x 8mm flat for frame work, with a convex top bar. This is all solid bar not hollow tube. No decoration what so ever, a plain Juliet balcony. Classic refers to plain Juliet balcony, and double top is that with gap at top. To make it easier i will refer to it as door size. This might be an issue when comparing prices to competitors as they list the Juliet balcony size, expecting you to have added on the 300mm. So please remember when comparing price. my 900mm balcony is a 1200mm wide Juliet balcony.
| Door size | 900mm | 1000mm | 1100mm | 1200mm | 1500mm | 1800mm | 2000mm | 2100mm | 2400mm | 2700mm |
| Classic | 220 | 220 | 270 | 270 | 320 | 370 | 420 | 420 | 470 | 520 |
| Double top | 250 | 250 | 310 | 310 | 360 | 410 | 460 | 460 | 510 | 560 |
Normally we use convex rail as in the picture for the top rail. This gives a nice feel to a Juliet balcony top rail.
Its has two draw backs it much more expensive than the equivalent flat bar by about 1 and half times. It also requires a nice mitre joint on the corners. That takes time to do. So now offering flat bar as a cheaper alternative. This knocks off about 10% off the price on the classic. So on a 900mm door size Juliet balcony that’s £22, on an 1800mm that £37.
Working on a prototype design where the is no mitre joint but still uses the convex bar as the top rail as a money saving alternative.
Juliet Balcony bars prices.
Double top bar infill.
DT plain bar £2
DT circle £3
DT scroll £4
DT bar and C scroll £7
Upright bars for both classic and double top.
Single pair of C scrolls on plain bar.
Price per unit £5
Centre C scroll in double twisted bar.
Price per unit £11
C scroll on a double basket bar
Price per unit £13
C scroll pair in double S scroll bar
Price per unit £17
C scroll pair on double circle bar
Price per unit £13
Triple pair of C scrolls bar on plain bar
Price per unit £15
These are all based on having a C scroll as the centre of the bar.
Single basket in an otherwise plain bar
Price per unit £4
Basket centre in a double twisted bar
Price per bar £10
Triple baskets on a plain bar.
Price per bar £12
Centre cage with S scroll top and bottom
Price per bar £16
Centre cage in double circle bar
Price per unit £12
Basket with C scroll top and bottom
Price per unit £14
These are all based on having a basket / cage as the centre piece of the bar
Single centre circle on plain bar
Price per unit £4
Circle and double twist
Price per unit £10
Circle and double cage bar
Price per unit £12
Circle with double S scroll
Price per unit £16
Triple circle bar
Price per unit £12
Centre Circle , a pair of C scrolls top and bottom
Price per unit £14
These all have Circles as the centre piece
Single centre twisted bar
Price per unit £3
Fully twisted bar
Price per unit £5
Centre twist with cages top and bottom
Price per unit £11
twisted centre with S scrolls top and bottom
Price per unit £15
Twisted centre with a circle either end
Price per bar £11
Centre twist and a pair of C scrolls
Price per bar £13
Twists are the centre piece of all these bars.
Price per bar £6
Price per bar £8
Price per bar £12
Price per bar £8
Price per bar £10
Price per bar £17
Price per bar £16
Price per bar £16
Price per bar £15
Price per bar £12
Price per bar £24
Price per bar £22
Price per bar £22
Price per bar £20
Price per bar £20
Price per bar £20
Price per bar £20
Price per bar £12
Price per bar £12
Price per bar £24
Price per bar £28
Price per bar £28
No picture for this as it is a plain bar. The 47th option is to use 16mm square as a replacement bar. This throws in a slightly thicker bar, than the rest. Its ideal for being minimal. Works exceptional well on the double top frame. When placed under a DT plain bar.
Price per bar £3
You may have notice that some bars are the same, except that the S scroll has been flipped vertically. This one of the great things about scrolls. Rotating them or mirror imaging them creates something new.
Design advice.
First of all i want to go back to building regulations advice from the many Juliet balcony page. “Consideration should be taken into any design that allows for young children to gain a foothold and climb over”. If you have young children and they may have access to the room with the Juliet balcony. Please take this into consideration.
Its usual to start with the centre and work out. Most of the examples above are of that type. Place an item to the left of centre and the same item to the right of centre. So that the left side is a mirror image of the right side. From the centre bar. Don’t be afraid of leaving the centre plain. Much depends on the size of your balcony, 5 items in a Juliet balcony for a 900mm wide door fills in quite a lot of the balcony. But 5 items in a Juliet balcony for a 2700mm door might look empty. Don’t be afraid of the empty look sometimes less is more, if well chosen and well placed.
If you are looking for something subtle you often don’t go wrong with every 5th bar as a point of interest.
Don’t forget it is your choice, I have made things that i thought looked awful in terms of design. So bad that i only tack welded the items in place. Took a photo of it and emailed it to the client, expecting them to want to change the design. When you get the email reply back telling you its perfect and just what they expect. You very much realise we all don’t have the same taste.
I got a design in mind what now.
So if you have something worked out, now perhaps become the hard bit. You need to communicate that idea to me where I can do a to scale CAD drawing, and email it back for approval to make.. There is a couple of ways of doing this, first being a doodle. Or should i say a photo of that doodle emailed from a mobile phone. Where hopefully i can decode it. The other way its tell me the balcony size. Then tell me on 5th bar from left put a jbar-4 on the 10th put jabr-45 etc. Either way would work.
It takes time to produce a drawing, time taken out of my working day. So i would ask if you have multiple designs in mind that you narrow them down to as few as possible. These Juliet balconies are priced the same as a plain ones. I have not added addition labour costs for design work.
Why not just put all the designs on a web page?
You might be wondering why don’t I just draw out the possibilities on put them on the website. Why this? The answer to that is very simple. If you just place one item in the centre of a balcony you have 46 possible designs. If you then decide to place another decorative bar either side of that. Assuming that you always do a mirror image from the centre. you now have 46 x 46 possible designs or 2116. if you add another in then its 46 x 46 x 46 possibilities. That’s 97,336 possible designs. Add another item and its 46 x 46 x 46 x 46. That is 7 decorative bars, that is over 4 million possible designs. Couple that with the variations available on the double top bar design which must be over 20. That’s over 80 million possible designs. Of course you would need drawings for all the specific Juliet balcony sizes. That increase by 10 time again
If it took 10 minutes a drawing that’s 15000 years to complete all the drawings…….